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  "Why Do Many Male Jehovah Witnesses Who Learn TTATT Grow Beards"?

  by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

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  the year once 1983 and the brother who use to study the bible with me drove by and had a full on "charles manson" looking facial hair and beard.

  i asked tina, a friend what's up with him?

  tina was 19 and a hot red-head woman who was partially in the religion but had problems with fornication.

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  i have magnificent side burns...rockabilly heaven.

  i suspect the whole grow a beard thing may be simply that it was once forbidden so feel like a reminder that you are out every time you look in the mirror.

  Oz
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  Stay Alive Til 2020

  by FrankWTower in

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  i've been playing around with wt statistics recently, helped by the great data available on jwfacts.com.

  i wanted to share somehting with the community, maybe you've seen something like this before.. continuing the trend of decline seen during the last 30 years, i was able to extrapolate the year when wt growth might finally end.

  if trends continue, we may only have to wait about 8 more years, 9 years to see it reported if the wt decides to report it at all, to see publisher growth end and possibly reverse.. the graph shows the annual growth rate of average publishers during the last 31 years.

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  hate to rain on the parade but...

  If this graph had been done in 2005, the straight line of decline would have probably been drawn at 2010 for the zero growth or even negative 'growth',

  so IF the next 5 years have some more peakes as have the last 6 years, then that might not happen till 2030, 2035 etc etc...decline yes but i cant see even zero for a lot longer than 2020

  Oz
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  April KM Question Box: Cellphones

  by pixel in

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  check out this arriving in april:.

  what bible principles apply to the useof cell phones while attending christian meetings and sharing in the ministry?.

  for everything there is an appointed time.

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  have not been to a meeting for long time...maybe they are full of beeps, ringtones and musical message tones such as deathmetal tunes...

  and its driving the poor oldies spare?!

  oz
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  "Holy Corporation Worship!! Batman" said Robyn about the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by frankiespeakin in

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  yes i think we can rightfully say that the governing body will hold the record for this title.

  the corporation is our mother, our father, our provider and divider of holy spirit, and no one can come to god except through the corporation,, with the wheel inside the wheels full of eyes, and jehovah hovering over head with cherubs at the 4 corners.. yes the governing body are the high rollers of the organization/corporation that you can offer worshipful thanks and obedience to, because they as they so often have proven from many scriptures with reason defying logic that they are the chosen one's of god almighty to lead his people into the promised land flowing with friendly lions and tigers just waiting for you to pet them while downing a nice pomegranate smoothy.. all hail jehovah's visible corporation/ark of the covenant!

  "holy corporation worship batman!!".

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  The Corporation is our mother, our father, our provider and divider of Holy Spirit, and no one can come to God except through the Corporation,, with the wheel inside the wheels full of eyes, and Jehovah hovering over head with cherubs at the 4 corners.

  Is this a quote from a publication, a talk, a video?......didnt hear it on the youtube...

  Oz
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  Avoiding Homelessness

  by magotan in

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  i'm falling apart here.

  the false teachings of the jw enrage me; we started covering the information for the jeremiah book, and i was outraged at how they twist up the scriptures to meet what they want to say.

  my dad wants to consider the "god's love" book during family worship evening.

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  perhaps the reality is that its time to strike out on your own.

  many young people leave home voluntarily at 15/16. (i did at 16, my wife did at 14) Somethimes education has to wait, take second place to survival, you know, get a job and pay the rent.

  It might mean at times you are doing it tough, very tough. I lived 6 months in a 2 man tent once...

  Oz
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  NWT copyright

  by goddidit in

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  2. bible

  i notice the jw bible is copyrighted.

  are any other "holy" books copyrighted?.

  i guess that means publishing it online along with a critique would violate the copyright?.

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  even if it doesn',t you can bet your ass that the WT legal team will go after you and have it removed...

  Oz
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  IS THERE PROOF THE GOVERNING BODY PREACH DOOR TO DOOR? Real Proof Please!

  by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

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  i heard very few if any, of the new members on the governing body actually go out in field service more than three hours a month.

  is there a reason why the governing body would excuse themselves from the master's commandments?

  jesus christ never said "spending time writing rules and regulations" was part of matthew 28. .

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  actually, taking another look at Herd's bag it does look photoshopped in too...I had a bag very similar to that and it was much bigger. It looks about the size of a ladies handbag in that pic...

  Oz
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  Flood Story in every Culture?

  by enigma1863 in

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  ok im looking for a specific religion and culture that has no flood story.

  someone claimed that every religion/culture has a flood story.

  i disagree but i want to have a reference..

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  Aussie Oz

  funny enough...or NOT funny, was that when I was 'in' i never questioned or investigated any of the WTs list of cultures with a flood legend.

  That there was a list was good enough for me... and I suspect for most of us before we woke up.

  Oz

  edit: anyway, as you are looking for a culture that has NO flood story, the above lists might help you cross them off ...
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  Flood Story in every Culture?

  by enigma1863 in

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  ok im looking for a specific religion and culture that has no flood story.

  someone claimed that every religion/culture has a flood story.

  i disagree but i want to have a reference..

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  Aussie Oz

  From the insight book, another big list of cultures claimed to have flood stories that CAME FROM the 'real one' of Noah

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  onpage 328] (For fully formatted text, see publication)

  Flood Legends

  Samples from six continents and the islands of the sea; hundreds of such legends are known

  Australia- Kurnai

  Destruction by Water / Humans Spared / Animals Spared/ Preserved in a Vessel

  Babylon-Berossus’ account

  Destruction by Water / Warning Given / Humans Spared / Animals Spared/ Preserved in a Vessel

  Babylon -Gilgamesh epic

  Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Warning Given / Humans Spared / Animals Spared /Preserved in a Vessel

  Bolivia- Chiriguano

  Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Warning Given / Humans Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  Borneo-Sea Dayak

  Destruction by Water / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  Burma- Singpho

  Destruction by Water / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  Canada- Cree

  Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  Canada - Montagnais

  Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Warning Given / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  China- Lolo

  Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  Cuba-original natives

  Destruction by Water / Warning Given / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  East Africa- Masai

  Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Warning Given / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  Egypt -Book of the Dead

  Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Warning Given / Humans Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  Fiji -Walavu-levu tradition

  Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Humans Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  French Polynesia- Raïatéa

  Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Warning Given / Humans Spared / Animals Spared

  Greece -Lucian’s account

  Destruction by Water / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  Guyana - Macushi

  Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  Iceland - Eddas

  Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Humans Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  India -Andaman Islands

  Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Humans Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  India - Bhil

  Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  India - Kamar

  Destruction by Water Divine Cause Warning Given Humans Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  Iran - Zend-Avest

  Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Animals Spared

  Italy - Ovid’s poetry

  Destruction by Water Divine Cause Humans Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  Malay Peninsula- Jakun

  Destruction by Water Divine Cause Humans Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  Mexico -Codex Chimalpopoca

  Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  Mexico- Huichol

  Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  New Zealand- Maori

  Destruction by Water Divine Cause Humans Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  Peru -Indianof Huarochirí

  Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Animals Spared

  Russia- Vogul

  Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  U.S.A. (Alaska)- Kolusches

  Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  U.S.A. (Alaska)- Tlingit

  Destruction by Water Divine Cause Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  U.S.A. (Arizona)- Papago

  Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  U.S.A. (Hawaii)- legend of Nu-u

  Destruction by Water Divine Cause Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  Vanuatu- Melanesians

  Destruction by Water Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  Vietnam- Bahnar

  Destruction by Water Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  Wales -Dwyfan/Dwyfach legend

  Destruction by Water Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  [Artwork—Chinese characters]

  VESSEL + EIGHT+ MOUTH (or Persons) .................... SHIP
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  Flood Story in every Culture?

  by enigma1863 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok im looking for a specific religion and culture that has no flood story.

  someone claimed that every religion/culture has a flood story.

  i disagree but i want to have a reference..

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  Aussie Oz

  please excuse the crappy formatting from the WT CD.

  This is from the 'Gods word' book 1989 that claims a list of cultures that have flood stories.

  Mankind Did Not Forget

  37 Geology professor John McCampbell once wrote: “The essential differences between Biblical catastrophism [the Flood] and evolutionary uniformitarianism are not over the factual data of geology but over the interpretations of those data. The interpretation preferred will depend largely upon the background and presuppositions of the individual student.”

  38 That the Flood did happen is seen in the fact that mankind never forgot it. All around the world, in locations as far apart as Alaska and the South Sea Islands, there are ancient stories about it. Native, pre-Columbian civilizations of America, as well as Aborigines of Australia, all have stories about the Flood. While some of the accounts differ in detail, the basic fact that the earth was flooded and only a few humans were saved in a man-made vessel comes through in nearly all versions. The only explanation for such a widespread acceptance is that the Flood was a historical event.